The impeachment process is picking up speed — and witnesses. Republicans complained of hearsay, so more first-hand witnesses are willing to put their jobs and safety at risk to testify.

We could get more firsthand info if Republicans would protest State Department, the White House, and other entities that are withholding subpoenaed documents and forbidding anyone to testify.

Trump defenders don’t have the facts or law on their side. Their strategy is to distract with other issues, interrupt, smear Chairman Schiff and act like victims, just as Trump did by Tweeting about Ambassador Yovanovitch during her hearing, adding to the list of impeachable offenses with this very-public witness intimidation.

Jordan, added to committee at last minute as attack dog, was problematic due to his history of defending alleged sexual offenders, so the only female Republican on the committee was brought on.

Stefanik acted indignant at being shut downs — for show — despite fact it was for repeatedly breaking with procedures (first established by Republicans).

Trump has free speech, but no more so than anyone else. He does not have the right to slander, libel, or tamper with/intimidate witnesses. We are not a monarchy and the occupant of the White House is not above the law — yet.

Trump can recall ambassadors and do many things, but that right does not include doing so for corrupt purposes, like obstruction or cover-ups.

Ms. Yovanovich has an impressive record of service to this country and is especially noted for anti-corruption work. There was no replacement for her for about a month.

During this time, Giuliani, some guys basically working for Kilimnik (linked to Russian intelligence and Putin, and instead of being paid by Giuliani, appear to have been paying Rudy), came in and took actions contrary to bipartisan American Ukraine policy to assist Trump’s campaign and help themselves financially (i.e., act corruptly).

Rick Perry was there, helping campaign donors get business contracts. They put their, Trump’s, and Putin’s interests above US national security and Ukraine’s need to defend itself from further invasion by Russia.

We Americans need to unite against foreign aggression and domestic corruption and to protect our democracy.

Carol Smith

Laramie

(9) comments

TheReplacement

Well Carol your title indicates Ukraine facts not on Trump's side and your 3rd paragraph leads with "Trump defenders don’t have the facts or law on their side." I went on read your entire screed and you yourself presented no facts uncovered in last week's Schiff show. In conclusion your writing and reasoning skills need much improvement. I suggest you submit a re-write with the body of your new letter supporting the title.

Check of Reality

Obviously this person did not listen to any cross examinations, the little allowed. People are not convicted on hearsay and perceptions. When asked why are you here since you have no creditable evidence plus you serve the will of the President not vice versa, Yovanovitch could offer nothing but her different opinions. Did she fail to mention she formerly worked with George Soros for his goals that are failing big time? It’s a political circus and the Federalist papers warned against such.

mjp16

This reads like a Democrat talking point memo, with no originality in it. Ms. Smith also misses so many other facts that were brought up in the hearings, like how Yovanavitch thought the president's ability to fire at will ambassadors was good policy and how they testified that US policy is better to Ukraine than it was under Obama. She fails to mention how aid was granted before the deadline, too.

Oh well.

Nick

A reasonable summary, Carol, with predictable responses.

At the end of the day, when all the talking's done, there remain two irrefutable facts.

Trump is a self-serving liar, and supports the "facts" put forth by Russia over evidence provided by our own intelligence professionals.

For those who continue to support Trump -- here's still time to get on the right side of history.

TheReplacement

Nick like Carol, can't point to any facts damaging to Trump uncovered by the Schiffshow so he resorts to the old russia phobia canard. Try and keep up Nick. Russiagate was the Dems 1st coup attempt that failed when Mueller and his merry band of dnc staff lawyers couldn't deliver the goods. We're on Ukrainegate now or coup attempt #2 which is also failing so miserably that dems can't even rally their own caucus for an impeachment vote. You do know about Ukraine don't you? It's where 0bama/Clinton/Biden/Nuland staged a successful coup in 2014 against a democratically elected President and the Biden family subsequently cleaned up by laundering U.S. taxpayer aid $ through an oligarch controlled shell company into the bank account of his cokehead son. You're right on one point. Trump is a self-serving liar but so is everyone else in the D.C. swamp.

Nick

Schiffshow.

Russia canards.

Russiagate.

Ukraniangate.

Coups. #1 and #2.

Sorry, Replace. You're buried so deep in your conspiracies it would take too long to unpack you.

Happy Thanksgiving.

TheReplacement

@Nick, Arthur Schopenhauer (1788 – 1860), “all truth passes through three stages: first, it is ridiculed; second, it is violently opposed; and third, it is accepted as self-evident.” Nick like all dems, you're still stuck in the second stage. You'll make it through eventually. There's hope for you.

Nick

Glad there's still hope for me. I promise to watch more Fox News and to selectivity filter reality.

Meanwhile, I'll part with another quote.

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their hearts desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."—Henry Louis Mencken (1920)

mjp16

So lets impeach because hes a jerk. Perfect.

As to Russia, let it go. If we've learned anything from these hearings is that the beaurocrats thought they were better than him.

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